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To each his own, I like to pack as light as possible so my ultralight backpacking gear does double duty for motor camping. The type of backwoods exploring I do is the reason I like to be weight conscious as sometimes you have to pick up a dropped bike or pull yourself through some muck etc. Its amazing what you think you might need to what you actually use camping is evident after a trip and you unpack and realize you never used some items you've brought. Ive really invested in the Sea to Summit product as its quality light weight gear.