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7 minutes ago, Jason R said:

How many miles was it from your home to camp?

Left my house at 9:30pm and arrived at Big Pine at 12:15am where I noticed the damage. 245-Miles

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1 hour ago, Eric Hall said:

Too fast too heavy

I just went on the Motoz website. The tire has a load speed rating of 70Q = 739lb @ 99mph. Even if the bike weighed 1,000lb and I averaged 95mph for 2-hours I do not think it should have failed the way it did. So far all the response I have received at ESP (The shop that works on my bike) say they do not think it should have failed under those conditions. Maybe I will contact the factory to help me understand if the failure is reasonable or not. BTW the bike has a new set of Rallz front and rear now.

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MotoZ Tractionator H/T tires going to Utah with me. Let's see how many miles TKC-80s last before I change them out.

Plus random work photo from my 4 day hitch this week20180907_095827.jpeg20180905_191537.jpeg

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The Rallz have the same 70Q Load/Speed rating as the HT. I have been happy with the various Motoz models I have tried in the past, but do want to better understand the limitations so I do not have this issue again. There are 75-80 mph highways out there and want to make sure I am running at least an 70/30 tire that can handle a 10% overage over the posted speed limit.

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On 8/14/2018 at 8:05 PM, Eric Hall said:

Ah so apparently even though the new tire is called Rallz they pronounce it “Rallys.”

Desert HT's are off and the RallZ tires are mounted!  In this video you will see my used up Desert H/T tires, next to a brand new set... next to the RallZ tire next to the Tractionator Adventure Tire.  Three different tires for three different riders. Pretty neat.  What do you think? Take a look:  

 

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Another excellent video, @Manybikes!  Very thorough explanation.  Interesting you say ADV is 75/25 when I've been saying 70/30 this whole time.  Pretty close.  I also viewed the MKII as kind of the ADV V.2 but it's a separate tire altogether.

Happy with my RallZ tires so far!  They did very well at High Sierra and the feeling I'm getting is like they took the knob on the ADV tire and turned it up to 11.

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The Rallz performed well under the identical conditions that the HT failed in my previous post.

I was very pleased with the off-road performance of the Rallz front and rear. Looks like the rear will last 3-4k miles with my riding style. For now they will be my go to tire.

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Update on the RallZ...  Got about 7k miles out of them!  I thought they'd be similar to the Adventure where I got 5500 off the rear.  Front was too gone to continue as well.

Like I had thought before, these RallZ are like the Adventures turned up to 11.  They start with an extra mm of tread too.

 

And the rear

 

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Checkout this guy's comments on the front tire photo... danedeboer.  I think he's confusing me with someone else because he seems to be saying that because I said "no wobble" then I'm somehow acknowledging that the old ones (that did wobble) caused his crash in the sand?!!  He actually did say that I had told him that (I didn't) and that I don't know what I'm talking about.

We did talk but it was about risers, not tires (I still have the conversation records).  I did leave one comment on a photo of his he posted about the tires and I said "you're going to like those."

I told him if someone did indeed tell him it wasn't the Motoz tires that caused his accident that I would have to agree!  I've fallen in sand many times but it was due to my lack of skill, not tires.

The old MKII's did have a noticeable wobble for me but on pavement around 70 mph and it went away after the first 100 miles.  The Desert HT's also wobbled a bit and bothered me on the way back from IDBDR last year but never off road.  Any dirt biassed knobby tire on a heavy adventure bike is going to wobble.  Even my nobbies on the CRF450x at 65 mph on the highway wobbled.  That's what nobbies do.

Perhaps he can enlighten us on what he was trying to say but from the look of his feed it doesn't look like he has a lot of experience riding big bikes off road so I'm going to have to stick with my original hypothesis. lol

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