Administrators Eric Hall Posted May 13, 2016 Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Update: good intro video on what this whole topic is about This is a great question that comes up time and time again. I think the first company I heard about avoiding was Camelbak due to their funding groups who want to shut down riding areas. I'm not an adv-fascist and you are certainly free to do whatever you want with your money. These companies are the problem, not you. I'm not going to try and shame anyone. This is simply for you to make an informed decision. On the one hand we have rabid OHV activists who are ever vigilant in protecting and preserving our off road areas and I applaud that. On the other are the die hard green environmentalists who pretty much want to shut down everything to access via anything that isn't "human-powered." In the middle you have those who say we have to work together to share outdoor spaces and support the outdoor industry. I'll let you decide where you are and leave it at that. I will try to keep this list up to date so follow along so as not to miss any updates. Source 1 Source 2 Source 3 Source 4 (most current) Source 5 Source 6 3Point5 4 Corners Riversports Adidas Outdoor ADS Ventures Adventure Bound RiverExpeditions AdventureCorps, Inc. Adventure Journal Adventure Photo & Film Adventure Travel Trade Association Ahnu footwear All About Rivers, LLC Aloft Group, Inc Alpert-Tebrich & Associates Alpine Sports Altrec.com American Alpine Club/Institute American Alpine Institute American RecreationProducts American Sports Group, Inc. Arc'teryx ARTA River Trips Asana Climbing ASK Associates Aspen Skiing Company Atlas Snow-shoe Babbitt's Backcountry Outfitters Backbone Media LLC Backcountry Gear Backpacker Magazine Backpacker's Pantry, Inc. Backwoods Retail Belinda Sanda Sales Bellwether, Inc. Ben Moon - Moonhouse Bergans USA, LLC Bergans of Norway Bernzott Capital Advisors Bidland.com Big Agnes Black Diamond Equipment Blackshrimp Blue Magazine Blue Ridge Outdoors Magazine Bluesign Technologies Boco Gear Briggs & Riley Travelware Bronwen Jewelry Brook Hoopper Consulting Brooks Sports Broudy/Donohue Photography Bryce Valley KOAKampground Burlington Industries Burton Snowboards Burt's Bees CamelBak Products Cairn Campmor, Inc. Canada Goose Candian River Expeditions & Nahanni River Adventures Carmichael, Lynch, Spong Public Relations Cascade Designs Cascade Financial Strategies CGPR Public Relations Chaco Sandals Clear Water Outdoor, LLC Chalk Bag Specialist Christoph & Company Clif Bar Climbing Magazine Columbia Sportswear Co. Consoltex Inc. Creative Energies Dansco Darn Tough Vermont Deer Hill Expeditions Desert Bistro Desert Rock Sports Dick's Sporting Goods Dong-in Entech Dry Creek Enterprises Eagle Creek Travel Gear Eagles Nest Outfitters, Inc Eastern Mountain Sports Ecco Eco-Heaven LLC Eco-x Sports Inc Eddie Bauer Egan & Associates LLC Edgeworks Elemental Herbs Elevation Outdoors Magazine Equip Everest Textile, Ltd Excalibur Distribution/DMM Inc. Exped Far Bank Enterprises Far Out Expeditions Farm to Feet Fathom Expeditions Fendler Communications Filson Fishpond Inc. Flamand Sports Footloose Communications FootZone of Bend Free Heel and Wheel Frontier Group, Inc Garmont North America GoalZero GoLite GoPro Grabber Performance Group/Grabber Inc Graham Spencer Grand Union Trading Co., Ltd. Granite Gear Grassroots Outdoor Alliance Great Plains Mountain Stuff Greenspace Gregory Mountain Products GSI Outdoors GTHI GU Energy Labs Guyot Designs Headsweats Healthbarn USA High and Wild Highgear USA Hi-Tec Hipcamp Horny Toad Activewear HotWax Media HOWADesign HydroFlask Ibex Outdoor Clothing Icebreaker Idaho River Adventures Imlay Canyon Gear Indigitous Injinji, Inc Innate International MountainEquipment International Mountain Guides IPA Connect JAM Media Collective Jansport Jetboil, Incorporated Jimmy Chin Photography Johnson Camping/JWA Juniper Ridge, LLC Justin Bailey Photography Keen Kelty Pack, Inc. Kiitella, Inc Kennan Ward Photography Kirwin Communications Klean Kanteen Kling Mountain Guides Kokatat La Sportiva Leatherman Tool Group Logan Outdoor Products/Camp Chef Loki Outerwear Lotus Design Lowe Alpine Systems LowePro Camera Bags Malden Mills Industries, Inc. Mammoth MountaineeringSupply Mammut Sports Group Marmot Mountain, LLC MercuryCSC Merrell Midwest Mountaineering Montrail Moonstone Mountain Equipment Co-op Mountain Gear Mountain Hardwear Mountain Lake Marketing Mountain Safety Research (MSR) Mountain Tools Mountain Waters Rafting and Adventure Co. Nahanni River Adventures National Geographic Maps NAU Nemo Equipment Company Neptune Mountaineering Nester Hosiery, Inc New Balance Athletic Shoe New Belgium Brewing Company New Normal Consulting Nichols Expeditions Nike, Inc. Nikwax Waterproofing Nite Ize, Inc North Drinkware Northwest Rafting Co Noto Group Nuu Muu NRS Oboz Olukai Oceanmedix.com, LLC Onya Baby Open Sky WildernessTherapy Osprey Packs Outdoor Gear Exchange/Gearx.com Outdoor Industry Association Outdoor Retailer Outdoor Specialty Group, LLC Outdoor Research Outdoor Sports Marketing Outdoor Utah AdventureGuide Outdoorindustryjobs.com Outpac Designs, Inc Outside Adventure FilmSchool Outside Magazine Pachner & Associates Pack and Paddle Pack Rat Outdoor Center Pale Morning Media, Inc Patagonia, Inc. Peak Design/Sports Pearl Izumi Penguin Brands Perception, Inc. Performance Bikes Perpetual Motion NW Peter McBride Productions Petzl Foundation Phoenix Creative Picky Bars Pine NeedleMountaineering Pinnacle Outdoor Group Planet Outdoors Point6 Polartec prAna Press Forward PR PrimaLoft Quality Bicycle Products Quick Feat International Rabbit Mountain Recreational Equipment, Inc. (REI) Red Desert Adventures Rennie Publications, Inc. Revolution House Media Rising Tide Associates River Magazine River Runner Outdoor River Sports Outfitters Riverside Design RLP Wealth Advisors RLX Polo Sport Roots Rated Royal Robbins Ruff Wear Inc Runner Girl Races LLC Saloman Sanitas Sales Group Saucony SAXX Underwear Scarpa North America Schoeller Textil USA Sea to Summit Seaview Outfitters Self-Propelled Outdoorsman Shift Advantage Sierra Designs Sierra Nevada Brewing Slingfin SmartWool Corporation Smith Optics, Inc SNEWS SNOCRU SOAR Communications Sorel Sorensen's Resort Spiker Communications Sporting Goods Manufacturers Association Stanley, a brand of PMI Stio STM Bags Stohlquist WaterWare Stonewear Designs Sullivan-Bishop Agency Superfeet Teva The Access Fund The Base Camp The Conservation Alliance The Family Outing The Forest Group The Mountain Lab The North Face The Timberland Company The Whiting Group Thompson Manufacturing Inc. Thor-Lo Sock Company Thule Timex Toad&Co Trails Illustrated Treasure Mountain Inn Tributary Whitewater Tours Trio Restaurant Group Ultralight AdventureEquipment Under Solen Media Unicorn Recreation Products Ursack Ute Mountaineer Vapur Vasque Velocio Apparel Venture Snowboards Verde PR and Consulting Veterans Expeditions Vibram USA Virasana Productions Vishnu Temple Press W.L. Gore & Associates, Inc. Wasatch Touring Waypoint Outdoor White Horse ResidentialHomes Whitewater West Wild Iris Mountain Sports Wild Places, Inc Wilderness Press Wildland Trekking Co Wilson’s Eastside Sports With Gaia Design Woods Wheatcroft Photography Wyoming Woolens Yakima Yeti Coolers Yonder Young One Zappos Zephyr Adventures Zumiez, Inc 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOYER Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Thank you for this list! It will come in handy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kojack06 Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Good thread. Many of these fascists are even against the mountain bikers, claiming that ANY wheeled recreation is "wrong". They portray themselves as intellectuals and critical thinkers. They are neither. They are simply selfish. I believe I read the gear manufacturer Black Diamond is very anti-ORV. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Hall Posted May 14, 2016 Author Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted May 14, 2016 Kelty was going to sponsor me with some gear but I've had to say no thanks. I have a Kelty tent I bought years ago (Traildome 4) and Iike it a lot. I also have a Marmot tent that I bought from REI! I have an old Camelbak, JetBoil, Mountain Hardware shirts and some old Columbia boots too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOStester Posted May 17, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Holy sheep dip Batman that's a lot of companies to avoid Thanks for putting the list together -- always good to be able to make an informed decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy613 Posted May 25, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Wow, Just took the time to read through the list (thanks for making it) and it looks like half of my current kit won't be returning. The only real zinger for me out of that list is Nikwax...I'm damned near addicted to their waterproofing for leather, anyone know of any good alternatives? Maybe a made in Oz product or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Hall Posted May 25, 2016 Author Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Wow, Just took the time to read through the list (thanks for making it) and it looks like half of my current kit won't be returning. The only real zinger for me out of that list is Nikwax...I'm damned near addicted to their waterproofing for leather, anyone know of any good alternatives? Maybe a made in Oz product or something? Grangers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny-tiger Posted May 31, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Wow, kinda makes me wonder who else is in the closet on this. I know who I will not support, I'm also glad that some of my stuff is a good alternative. Thank you sir for putting this together. On a side note, I try not to buy from China as well, this list makes it a little more difficult. It's worth it though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Hall Posted May 31, 2016 Author Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 The opposite of avoiding companies that do contribute to these groups is to patronized the ones who DO contribute to the groups trying to preserve access for us (and others like hunters, fishermen, jeeps, etc...) Some of those advocacy groups: Blue Ribbon Coalition CORVA Stewards of the Sequoia AMA ADV Addicts has just announced they will make a donation to CORVA for every Vapur bottle they sell and are making it retroactive to Jan 1, 2016! I may start a new thread for companies like this 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny-tiger Posted May 31, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 (edited) I think that's a great idea! Edited May 31, 2016 by tiny-tiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flappy613 Posted May 31, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Excellent idea, Eric! In addition, I try to keep my local dealer in some scratch as well by purchasing most of my consumables there. They don't stock a ton of things I need but I purchase what I can. As an example because I do frequent the place the guy who runs the gear department knocked over 125.00 off the purchase of a new Scorpion Exo jacket for me. This made it FAR cheaper than it would have been with any discount from anywhere else. Therefore I won't balk at paying over 8.00 a quart for 2 smoker oil and I'll at least go LOOK at the Africa Twin (when they finally get one). I could surely save money by buying all my junk on Amazon or the 'Bay but these folks live and work in my neighborhood and I know most of them by name. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny-tiger Posted June 1, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Excellent idea, Eric! In addition, I try to keep my local dealer in some scratch as well by purchasing most of my consumables there. They don't stock a ton of things I need but I purchase what I can. As an example because I do frequent the place the guy who runs the gear department knocked over 125.00 off the purchase of a new Scorpion Exo jacket for me. This made it FAR cheaper than it would have been with any discount from anywhere else. Therefore I won't balk at paying over 8.00 a quart for 2 smoker oil and I'll at least go LOOK at the Africa Twin (when they finally get one). I could surely save money by buying all my junk on Amazon or the 'Bay but these folks live and work in my neighborhood and I know most of them by name. I would love to have a spot to buy adventure type gear from a local place. But the only local shops either carry cruiser type leathers and bags, motocross or sport bike track type. Tucson sucks for anything more then that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aframe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I would love to have a spot to buy adventure type gear from a local place. But the only local shops either carry cruiser type leathers and bags, motocross or sport bike track type. Tucson sucks for anything more then that.Yeah but Sonoran Hotdogs though.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aframe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Does anyone know of any supportive Arizona based companies? Jesse ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny-tiger Posted June 1, 2016 My Ride Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Yeah but Sonoran Hotdogs though....No joke right!! Soooooo goooooood! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aframe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Can't even find a good one in Phoenix. Best place in Tucson is little cart at 36th st and country club. Order it "chiple" style. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Hall Posted June 1, 2016 Author Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Does anyone know of any supportive Arizona based companies? Jesse ? Blue Ribbon lists these as supportive BARLOW ADVENTURES, SEDONA GOLDEN SHORES OFFROADERS, TOPOCK LIBERTY MOTORSPORTS, YUMA TRAIL RIDERS OF S ARIZONA, TUCSON WINSTON MCINTOSH, PHOENIX 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aframe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 Blue Ribbon lists these as supportive BARLOW ADVENTURES, SEDONA GOLDEN SHORES OFFROADERS, TOPOCK LIBERTY MOTORSPORTS, YUMA TRAIL RIDERS OF S ARIZONA, TUCSON WINSTON MCINTOSH, PHOENIX Perfect, thank you kind Sir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Eric Hall Posted June 1, 2016 Author Administrators My Rides (3) Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I didn't find Jesse Luggage on any of the lists but he's in Glendale and while I haven't met him I hear he's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aframe Posted June 1, 2016 Report Share Posted June 1, 2016 I didn't find Jesse Luggage on any of the lists but he's in Glendale and while I haven't met him I hear he's one of the nicest people you'll ever meet.I hear the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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